Showing posts with label speaking. Show all posts
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Wednesday, April 17, 2024

Satisfying and Effective Group Talk

The nature of this group talk, called dialogue

            There are ways of speaking that are often more effective for good lives, good living, and for good dialogue. Ways that make dialogue better for improving our lives are available. That way of speaking takes practice. That practice is best when it includes: a bit of love; abundant respect, honesty and courtesy; civility and kindness are also helpful. Careful and practiced listening  are a must. It can be a pleasant ongoing practice. Some call it dialogue practice.

            Dialogue can be considered group conversation. It can include an exchange of ideas and opinions. Meaningfulness can be a measure of this conversation. It is good talk among more than two persons. Good talk calls for good listening. Good listening usually calls for meaningful practice. This dialogue is one good way of getting to know one another. It is also a good way to develop appropriate trust for one another. It can be used for fun and learning. Such good group talk can include a sharing of feelings, thoughts, and opinions with an honest desire to understand one another.

            Such dialogue can also improve society. For example it can lead to talk of civics and citizenship. Group talk can come to consider group governance! It need not do so, but it can. Creating group conversation can be powerful. It can be a bit like a parlour game which is great, but it can be more.

Uses of dialogue.           

             Present conditions may call for something like societal navigation by way of dialogue. Dialogue may satisfy a need for the growth of a community of meaning and understanding. When we feel a need for a higher quality of meaning and understanding we can use dialogue skills to share meanings and understandings and find healthy satisfactions in doing so.

            Through dialogue we can better maintain a more coordinate state among ourselves. Our dialogue may make evident our more important commonalities.

            Through dialogue we better our chances of living well in the face of what may seem to be our profound differences. We may find that the reality is that beyond our profound differences are our profound commonalities. Through our dialogue we can look at our differences and commonalities and share some of the experiences which led to them. We can come to better appreciate our varied experience and come to more realistic appreciation of one another.

            In any dialogue group we may come to see what seems to be massive differences of perspective, worldview, and identity! In our dialogue is a way to better understand and appreciate those differences.

            We believe that we are able to work together to accomplish common goals and that at some level that we do have common goals. For example, survival is often an recognized common goal to us and that living well is often another.

            With our ongoing dialogue we can provide ourselves with a better chance for acting together to recognize a chosen goal and going on to act on its accomplishment. For example, it is possible for aspects of our mutual survival to be chosen as our common goal. We believe that it is possible for us to come to a common or mutual understanding of what we are trying to accomplish. Can benefit by learning to co-ordinate our actions so as to facilitate their success. Our dialogue skill and practice is important to our making progress toward our common good.

Think together.

            We can think about thinking together. Actually thinking together can be a life saver. Doing so can also be of practical value for more everyday usage. We can decide to learn to do so with just a little will power. We can be ready to recognize useful skills for thinking together. The skills will include some attention to the way we talk among ourselves and a great deal more attention to the way listen to and and understand one another.

            With practice we learn a lot. We come to better recognize the nature of useful skills.

            With some practice we may be pleasantly surprised by the power of our collective thought. We may be good thinkers, but thinking together very often leads to better thinking. It also leads to our acting together more effectively. Still individual thought is the source of collective thought and deserves a great deal of attention and respect. Thinking together is powered by individual thought. Thinking together is not possible without individual thought,

            Thinking together can bring forth new insights. It also contributes much to our ongoing learning,often with seemingly little effort on our part.           

             When we have decided to try to think together as a family group or any other from of grouping we may find it necessary to overcome what have become traditional models of communication. The dialogue 1    hass a set of rules for doing this, The rules are simple, but they take practice. These rules seem new to some, but they are old and have long been used. Humans are very capable of using them. They may seem new to us because many of us have never seen them practiced. With our normal will power we can come to use them with ease.

            We can understand the nature of dialogue. Let's do so. There are some parts which can seem difficult at first, but they are few. One may be learning to practice: more appropriate trust, more openness without blaming, more open examination of difficulties, stick to a high degree of honesty which includes respect and a rather humble understanding. We are not perfect, but we can aim to keep these attitudes in mind.  

About the nature of the dialogue

            In the beginning the dialogue may seem to have no agenda and to have little structure. You will find the agenda/s as you practice and you will find that the structure there is in the dialogue is very important. Also apparent lack of a clear purpose and desired outcomes may be disturbing for some. Many also are please to find that one desired outcome is that you be heard and understood and that another is you improve your ability to listen to others and to get a better feeling for their meanings.

            A nature of well practiced dialogue is that the talk can become more open and honest and we come to trust one another more appropriately. We also find that there is practically no blaming and that there is abundant responsibility. We become aware of our own inconsistencies as well as those of others. We gradually feel feerer to be ourselves. We like the feeling of getting better without having to be perfect.

            

More about the nature of thinking together and beginning to be more clearly aware of its value

            We begin to consider differences between thinking alone and thinking together. At first it is important to keep those differences in mind but find that it is important to do so. Later it can become a second natures and calls for almost no thought. Thinking together is  done differently than thinking alone. Getting another's meaning into your mind and getting her meaning into yours is not easy. Coming to the mutual understanding of meanings enables you to better act on them together. It is is not easy to do so. Accepting the reality of each others understanding is not easy. Still we can do so. And we can do so with a couple of dozen others. It takes practice and the practice can be a pleasure.

            Much of it is pretty simple. We make a time and place for that thinking to take place. I have found that sitting in a circle facing one another is a good practice. Having the opportunity to have equal opportunity to speak and to listen is also good. Listening well is vital, but perfection is not. We need space for each and all to participate in our thinking. We practice talking together one at a time. We find that we are are making meanings and understandings mutual.  

            We are learning  together to form an kind of interaction new to most of us. It begins as a conscious interaction. We are learning to listen more intently to that which is being said. We listen to understand the meaning of what the speaker is saying. As we listen we are not planing that which we are going to say; we listen to understand the meaning of that which the speaker is trying to express. We do try to think more clearly about that which is being said and to understand the speaker's intention. We intend to achieve a deeper and broader understanding of that which is said, without giving ourself a headache. 

            We can be generous and creative as we think together.

            Evokinga dialogue is different than evoking a discussion. We are not trying to make our point of view dominate. We do want it to be understood and we do want to understand the views of others. We may come to want to know more of the experiences which led to those points of view. We are taking part in a democratic process. We become more aware of the nature of meanings and understandings circulating in our group. We learn to operate in a way which increases our awareness of what is happening in our dialogue. We think freely as we think together.

            All there is to it is to do it and enjoy the process

            Is there a person in your life who might be interested in this dialogue? Talk to them. Talk can be very good. If the person is truly interested, they may be interested in cooperating with you to find a third person. With three persons you have the start of a real dialogue group! When you have about 30 individuals in your group you may think of starting a second group. I have gotten pretty old, but am still ready to help a new group with suggestions, information, explanations and like that.

            Thank you for reading.





                                                                         Richard Sheehan 


      

Sunday, September 10, 2023

Who Is Interested in Interacting With This Site?

                I will ramble on a bit longer here but it seems it is getting close to time to shut down Dialogue With RCS for lack of interest. The site has been up for over two years and is averaging only about 400 views a month and in that time I have only been contacted once. I incorrectly expected more exchanges with readers and perhaps some "How to" questions.

            I will keep you informed about my intentions. It may be useful for me to move some of this site to the Governance With RCS site. The Dialogue is an important part of governance and taking care of ourselves together.


Another Ramble Into Dialogue Practice:

            This piece seems to be mostly about what the dialogue is and a little about why I find it interesting and a bit about other stuff. I do not intend to say anything about how to practice the dialogue today. How is a big topic in which it seems few are interested.

           The what of the dialogue is that it can be a good way to meaning and understanding, shared meaning and understanding. It can be about kinds of peace, basketball, relationships, or whatever we like. These days I am interested in dialogue about taking care of ourselves together. I call that governance.

            However, The Dialogue is about effective dialogue. It is not complicated, but it does take practice. There are skills to practice, rules to integrate, and good practices to practice.

            In the practice you can find humor, fun, smiles, some laughter. You can also find satisfaction and new skills. You can find empowering meaning and understanding. Perhaps you can find companionship and co-operation. You may find yourself maintaining culture or even creating culture. You will get to know your practice companions better.

            It can be a supporting and strengthening process, and you do most of it with just the support of your group. I see it something like an adult primary and secondary school with no kindergarten. I can be much faster, but we find that we often have to learn one thing before we learn another.

            The practice includes the development of listening skills that helps us to a more useful understanding of our practice companions, ourselves, and the human world. Our developing listening skills bring more and more meaning and understanding into our lives. We begin to find satisfaction and joy by partaking of this kind of democratic talk. The practice may even let more peace and abundance into one's life.

            The dialogue includes being listened to. I the dialogue we can be heard. Speaking of being heard, the dialogue is communion among a group of individuals. It is not a monologue. For me to advance understanding of the dialogue I need a lot of ongoing feedback. I need to know you better to write to you better. I want to write about the dialogue in more detail, more systematically, in ways more appropriate to your wants, needs, and interests. The topic is broad and and can be deep.

            I often see the dialogue as a democratic stream of meaning flowing among us and through us. Still the dialogue can be much like a parlor game that most of can enjoy and still be a meaningful practice. Even as a parlor game there can be stream of growing meaning and understanding flowing among us which might not notice or give a conscious thought to. Still that flow of meaning and understanding created by us energizes new and meaningful understanding among us.
         
            The shared meaning we create with our dialogue is a force which helps us to more peaceful and meaningful families and relationships, helps us to co-operate locally more effectively, and helps us to more healthy societies nations. and to a more useful, resistant, and meaningful culture. 

The Dialogue is Not:    

~ the analysis found in discussion nor is it an effort to persuade anyone
~ an attempt to gain points.
~ an attempt to make any particular point prevail.

            This dialogue practice is a safer, more useful way to honestly share meaning, experience, 0pinion, assumption, and understanding. And this little essay is headed for more ramble. I hope it will turn out to be useful ramble through some valuable orientation and information.

            I hope that you have begun to suspect that the dialogue is likely to hold benefits for you. I believe that it has a variety of benefits for a variety of individuals. One can be surprised to find that a single minute they have to express an opinion of theirs to an attentive groups has real value for them. They are please to know that there can be many such minutes. Others feel there is important benefit in having the words they express are listen to heard with the intention of understanding. Others feel that the knowledge that each will have and equitable opportunity to be heard and that all will have equal opportunity to be heard. All of this can happen in the first grade.

            We all may come to appreciate the benefits in learning and practicing listening skills. Nearly all can benefit practicing speaking skills. Others are gaining hearing and understanding skills, and benefiting.

            All benefit and are please that many are gaining skills at expressing themselves at an extraordinary level of honesty. 

            Others  may feel that they benefit just by learning to accept that which another says is valuable information. Accepting it as valuable not necessarily for being true or something to be believed. But seeing it rather as a representation of another's opinion, interpretation, or experience. That is as a way to a deeper understanding of another whose opinions are very different from one's own.

            Individuals benefit in a variety of individual ways. For me and others a great benefit seems to center on a flow of meaning which begins to flow through a practice group. That flow can lead to a kind of thinking together in face of great differences discovered in a group. That sort of thinking together is sometimes very powerful, perhaps more powerful than the sum of that of all individual inputs

The Practice Calls For Your Effort:

    You will need to work the practice to gain your benefits. Listening, hearing, understanding call for your attention and more. Showing up and keeping appropriate silence take effort. Co-operating with your fellow dialoguers may be a pleasure, but also calls for effort. Learning the mechanics of this dialogue takes effort which may be called work.

            You can gain certain skills and understandings. You may gain some shared meaning and culture. Showing up may be a bit of a job. But there are more advantages. You can gain word power and voice projection. It is possible to gain a more peaceful and meaningful life. Some improve their use of a language which is not their own.

            This is about all the ramble in can handle today.

        If  you have an idea for practicing dialogue online, please share it. Remember, members must recognize each other and begin to know each other. You may use the "comments" app below.

            Their are other dialogue posts to explore at this site. You are welcome to explore them.

            Thanks for going on this ramble.




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